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Toronto passed in the 31st round.
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Toronto passed in the 31st round.


I think without the D&F, a lot of teams are going to be bowing out early.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You now, I'm starting to like this draft. Even though we didn't get Harvey, they still got who they wanted. Kunz, Moviel, Clyne, Vineyard all have talent. Moviel is a kid that has a ton of projection. I tend to think that Omar knows what he is doing. I also think he is saving money for the IFA market this year. IMO, he is going to load up on IFA.


It's better than last year. Niesen and Rustich are weird picks and Kunz was a reach, but the rest were fine. I'm just annoyed that they went cheap. They have to get a lot of IFA talent this year or the system will start looking very barren in a year or two.


That is true, but hopefully Omar has a plan for IFA and signs alot of them


Trust me you guys won't be the only team heavily involved in the IFA draft.

- Brackman
- Suttle
- Sublett
- Grote
- Krum
- Angelini
- Carpenter
- Peavey

All were the highlights of our draft.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jim Callis' Quick Take
The Mets didn't have a first-round pick but had a pair of sandwich-rounders, and I like the second (Georgia high school lefty Nathan Vineyard) a little more than the first (Oregon State righty Eddie Kunz). Vineyard has a nice fastball-slider combo and will be a starter. Ohio high school righthander Scott Moviel (second round) is a 6-foot-10, 245-pounder whose stuff keeps getting better. He could be a monster in a couple of years.


Meanwhile, in round 25, the Mets finally take someone who dropped due to signability!

25th round: Cole Abbott, rhp
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Abbott was rivaling Tanner Robles as Utah's top prep pitcher despite having a much lower profile. Known more as a basketball player in his prep career, Abbott started getting more attention last summer when he pitched in the Area Code Games. He's athletic and loose-armed, with a projectable 6-foot-2, 175-pound frame. Quick-armed and athletic, Abbott topped out at 92 mph early in the spring, settled in around 88-91 mph with his fastball and has more velocity in him for the future, as he does it easy and repeats his delivery well. Most impressive, he's shown the ability to spin a breaking ball-óat high altitude--consistently for strikes. While Abbott considers it a slider, it's a slurve right now with some depth, and with more repetition and instruction it could become a true power curveball. His commitment to Brigham Young could cloud his signability, and if he and Nevada's top prep, righty Taylor Cole, both showed up at BYU, the Cougars could be a national force in the next three seasons.


We'll have to see if they can 1) get him signed and 2) convince him to postpone his Mormon mission.
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Felix The Cat wrote:
Metsareback wrote:
AnybodyButBengie wrote:
Metsareback wrote:
You now, I'm starting to like this draft. Even though we didn't get Harvey, they still got who they wanted. Kunz, Moviel, Clyne, Vineyard all have talent. Moviel is a kid that has a ton of projection. I tend to think that Omar knows what he is doing. I also think he is saving money for the IFA market this year. IMO, he is going to load up on IFA.


It's better than last year. Niesen and Rustich are weird picks and Kunz was a reach, but the rest were fine. I'm just annoyed that they went cheap. They have to get a lot of IFA talent this year or the system will start looking very barren in a year or two.


That is true, but hopefully Omar has a plan for IFA and signs alot of them


Trust me you guys won't be the only team heavily involved in the IFA draft.

- Brackman
- Suttle
- Sublett
- Grote
- Krum
- Angelini
- Carpenter
- Peavey

All were the highlights of our draft.
felix carp and peavey steals for u my friends and to think omar picked in front of u and let them slide is annoying. man i got to find out what was omars thinking for the draft after the top 5 picks which i knew where gonna be pitchers. but to get mostly rps and pass on morales in 4th rd, and havery and then peavey and carp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man cant wait til i go to shea in 12 days and find out the thinking of fo.

felix i will say this though omar has 4 kids 3 hitters on his radar for ifa that and one lhp, he is not gonna sign ifa scrubs as filler for minors so if anyone is expecting 10 or more signings forget it!!!!

as for your skankees [CENSORED] for your last two picks!!!!!!!!! Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes j/k

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Jim Callis' Quick Take
The Mets didn't have a first-round pick but had a pair of sandwich-rounders, and I like the second (Georgia high school lefty Nathan Vineyard) a little more than the first (Oregon State righty Eddie Kunz). Vineyard has a nice fastball-slider combo and will be a starter. Ohio high school righthander Scott Moviel (second round) is a 6-foot-10, 245-pounder whose stuff keeps getting better. He could be a monster in a couple of years.


Meanwhile, in round 25, the Mets finally take someone who dropped due to signability!

25th round: Cole Abbott, rhp
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Abbott was rivaling Tanner Robles as Utah's top prep pitcher despite having a much lower profile. Known more as a basketball player in his prep career, Abbott started getting more attention last summer when he pitched in the Area Code Games. He's athletic and loose-armed, with a projectable 6-foot-2, 175-pound frame. Quick-armed and athletic, Abbott topped out at 92 mph early in the spring, settled in around 88-91 mph with his fastball and has more velocity in him for the future, as he does it easy and repeats his delivery well. Most impressive, he's shown the ability to spin a breaking ball-óat high altitude--consistently for strikes. While Abbott considers it a slider, it's a slurve right now with some depth, and with more repetition and instruction it could become a true power curveball. His commitment to Brigham Young could cloud his signability, and if he and Nevada's top prep, righty Taylor Cole, both showed up at BYU, the Cougars could be a national force in the next three seasons.


We'll have to see if they can 1) get him signed and 2) convince him to postpone his Mormon mission.


not happening postponing that mission this ia waste pick or a pr move to show we picked someone who fell but couldnt sign me thinks classic freddy skill sets move

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

draft endede??????? no 50 picks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2007 New York Mets Draft Selections:

S1, 42: Edward Kunz, RHP, Oregon State University, R/R, 6-5, 250, 4/8/86
S1, 47: Nathan Vineyard, LHP, Woodland HS (Ga.), L/L, 6-2, 200, 10/3/88
2, 77: Scott Moviel, RHP, Saint Edward HS (Oh.), R/R, 6-11, 245, 5/7/88
2, 93: Brant Rustich, RHP, UCLA, R/R, 6-6, 225, 1/23/85
3, 99: Eric Niesen, LHP, Wake Forest University, L/L, 6-0, 185, 9/4/85
3, 123: Stephen Clyne, RHP, Clemson University, R/R, 6-2, 205, 9/22/84
4, 153: Richard Lucas, 3B, Wolfson Senior HS (Fla.), R/R, 6-0, 205, 11/2/88
5, 183: Zach Lutz, 3B, Alvernia College (Pa.), R/R, 6-2, 215, 6/3/86
6, 213: Guillaume Leduc, RHP, Edouard Montpetit College (Montreal), R/R, 6-4, 192, 7/28/87
7, 243: Lucas Duda, 1B, USC, L/R, 6-4, 225, 2/3/86
8, 273: Daniel McDonald, RHP, Seton Hall University, L/R, 5-11, 195, 4/17/86
9, 303: Michael Olmstead, RHP, Cypress College, R/R, 6-6, 250, 5/2/87
10, 333: Brandon Richey, SS, Northwestern State University, R/R, 5-10, 180, 4/27/86
11, 363: Matthew Bouchard, SS, Georgetown University, R/R, 5-11, 180, 12/12/86
12, 393: William Morgan, RHP, Lewis & Clark State College, R/R, 6-1, 205, 11/3/85
13, 423: Jordan Abruzzo, C, University of San Diego, R/R, 6-3, 230, 8/12/84
14, 453: Robert Carson, LHP, Hattiesburg HS (Mo.), L/L, 6-3, 220, 1/23/89
15, 483: Jefferies Tatford, C, University of Louisiana (Lafayette), L/R, 6-3, 210, 9/16/84
16, 513: Christopher Fournier, LF, George Mason University, R/R, 6-0, 188, 8/24/84
17, 543: Brandon Efferson, RHP, Zachary HS (La.), R/R, 5-11, 170, 11/25/88
18, 573: Michael Antonini, LHP, Georgia College & State University, R/L, 6-0, 190, 8/6/85
19, 603: Ernesto Gonzalez, SS, George Wallace CC, R/R, 5-10, 165, 1/16/87
20, 633: Dylan Owen, RHP, Francis Marion University, R/R, 5-11, 185, 7/12/86
21, 663: Dillon Gee, RHP, University of Texas (Arlington), R/R, 6-1, 195, 4/28/86
22, 693: Tyler Vaughn, 3B, UC Irvine, R/R, 6-2, 200, 3/21/85
23, 723: Norberto Navarro, C, Pasco Hernando CC, R/R, 5-11, 188, 5/5/87
24, 753: Michael Parker, 2B, George Washington University, R/R, 5-10, 180, 2/28/85
25, 783: Nicholas Abbott, RHP, Weber HS (Ut.), R/R, 6-2, 170, 7/17/88
26, 813: Bradley Burns, RHP, University of Oklahoma, R/R, 6-4, 182, 5/28/86
27, 843: Kyle Catto, RHP, Southern Illinois University, R/R, 6-3, 200, 11/27/84
28, 873: Kyle Maxie, C, Pearl River CC, L/R, 6-2, 220, 10/3/86
29, 903: Roydrick Merritt, LHP, Southern University A&M, L/L, 6-0, 187, 9/22/85
30, 933: Rylan Sandoval, 2B, Chabot College, R/R, 5-10, 185, 8/10/87
31, 962: Antonio Peraza, LHP, La Mirada HS, L/L, 6-1, 185, 11/3/89
32, 991: Juan Centeno, C, Antonio Luchetti HS, L/R, 5-9, 172, 11/16/89
33, 1020: Nicholas Abshire, SS, Iowa HS (Ia.)?, R/R, 6-1, 185, 11/25/88
34, 1049: Terry Johnson, SS, William Carey College, R/R, 6-2, 180, 2/20/85
35, 1078: Jason Lavorgna, RHP, Eastern Connecticut State University, R/R, 5-9, 190, 3/4/86
36, 1106: Glen Johnson, SS, South Fork HS (Fla.), S/R, 5-11, 161, 7/24/88
37, 1134: Jose Alvarez, 3B, Otay Ranch High School (Ca.), R/R, 5-11, 210, 2/7/89
38, 1162: Brandon Kawal, LF, Concordia University, R/R, 6-3, 215, 10/29/84
39, 1190: Alonzo Harris, SS, McComb HS (Miss.), R/R, 6-0, 170, 1/16/89

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trust me you guys won't be the only team heavily involved in the IFA draft.

- Brackman
- Suttle
- Sublett
- Grote
- Krum
- Angelini
- Carpenter
- Peavey

All were the highlights of our draft.
felix carp and peavey steals for u my friends and to think omar picked in front of u and let them slide is annoying. man i got to find out what was omars thinking for the draft after the top 5 picks which i knew where gonna be pitchers. but to get mostly rps and pass on morales in 4th rd, and havery and then peavey and carp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man cant wait til i go to shea in 12 days and find out the thinking of fo.

felix i will say this though omar has 4 kids 3 hitters on his radar for ifa that and one lhp, he is not gonna sign ifa scrubs as filler for minors so if anyone is expecting 10 or more signings forget it!!!!

as for your skankees [CENSORED] for your last two picks!!!!!!!!! Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes j/k[/quote]

Well if anything i didn't see the big hish risk picks that omar targeted.

which Means......he's going balls out for the IFA class.

That also means that the yankees are going to go hard after every left handed pitcher in South Amercia since for the second year in a row it looks like we aren't going to sign any of them.

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They were saying the Mets were going to go big with the IFA's last year and it didn't happen...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They were saying the Mets were going to go big with the IFA's last year and it didn't happen...


Last year there wasn't as much talent as this year

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Coolest pick of the draft just selected by the Yankees

Patrick Venditte RHP/LHP Creighton.

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and yes he's a switch pitcher Twisted Evil

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Coolest pick of the draft just selected by the Yankees

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and yes he's a switch pitcher Twisted Evil


Awesome they took this kid?
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Jim Callis' Quick Take
The Mets didn't have a first-round pick but had a pair of sandwich-rounders, and I like the second (Georgia high school lefty Nathan Vineyard) a little more than the first (Oregon State righty Eddie Kunz). Vineyard has a nice fastball-slider combo and will be a starter. Ohio high school righthander Scott Moviel (second round) is a 6-foot-10, 245-pounder whose stuff keeps getting better. He could be a monster in a couple of years.


Meanwhile, in round 25, the Mets finally take someone who dropped due to signability!

25th round: Cole Abbott, rhp
Quote:
Abbott was rivaling Tanner Robles as Utah's top prep pitcher despite having a much lower profile. Known more as a basketball player in his prep career, Abbott started getting more attention last summer when he pitched in the Area Code Games. He's athletic and loose-armed, with a projectable 6-foot-2, 175-pound frame. Quick-armed and athletic, Abbott topped out at 92 mph early in the spring, settled in around 88-91 mph with his fastball and has more velocity in him for the future, as he does it easy and repeats his delivery well. Most impressive, he's shown the ability to spin a breaking ball-óat high altitude--consistently for strikes. While Abbott considers it a slider, it's a slurve right now with some depth, and with more repetition and instruction it could become a true power curveball. His commitment to Brigham Young could cloud his signability, and if he and Nevada's top prep, righty Taylor Cole, both showed up at BYU, the Cougars could be a national force in the next three seasons.


We'll have to see if they can 1) get him signed and 2) convince him to postpone his Mormon mission.


I like the Moviel more and more every second

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird, weird draft. Hope there's something to get excited about with the IFAs.

My only possibly guess is this, and it's a stretch. Quality RP is at almost as much of a premium as young starting pitching these days, and the front office probably thinks it's much easier to develop. A healthy version of Duaner Sanchez would probably command a lot on the trade market - we've seen some of the suggested packages for a relatively average guy like Linebrink over the past few years. Maybe Omar is doing the equivalent of the guy in a fantasy draft who takes every stud closer in the 3-7th round, stocks up on saves for the season, and then tries to deal for big players. Cheap, fast tracked stud relievers could be appealing to a lot of teams.

If they're just trying to impact their own bullpen or turn some of these kids into starters, I definitely don't get it. Either way, wish they'd just gone with bpa every round and prayed for gold, but we'll see what happens.

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They were saying the Mets were going to go big with the IFA's last year and it didn't happen...


Last year there wasn't as much talent as this year


We'll see, but as I was saying last year, I have a feeling everyone's going to be disappointed.

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And as much as we want to talk up the Mets money, the Yankees and Red Sox are going to be just as involved as the Mets. Everyone's following Omar's lead now, it's not going to be as easy as grabbing Fernando and Guerra was.

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And as much as we want to talk up the Mets money, the Yankees and Red Sox are going to be just as involved as the Mets. Everyone's following Omar's lead now, it's not going to be as easy as grabbing Fernando and Guerra was.


I agree. we only got one prized ifa last year when we went the cheap route in the draft. who knows what will happen this year with the ifas.
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Omar has fallen in love with college relievers who project as set up/ middle relievers at best.
his draft is thin on position players especially HS kids who lean to signing with big college programs.
the only position players with upside were 3B clearly a position not in urgent need. we lack power hitters.
last year's draft was awful too and Omar only signed one high profile IFA. Mets are simply not spending much money at least not well the last two years.
to trade for good position players we must have a quality, deep farm system. we dont. we have a few OFs and SPs.
Very dispppointed. we're behaving like a small market franchise with an odd philosophy.
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