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If LoDuca gets average to.. .310 for haters.. .320 for Hire
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: If LoDuca gets average to.. .310 for haters.. .320 for Hire Reply with quote

Will the fucking haters STFU then? We have would have a .300 hitting CATCHER! Hell he is batting .292 now. Very respectable. He also has one of the best strikeout ratios in the league.

But people still bitch. Unfuckingbelieveable.



EDIT: Since he now passed .300... lets make it .310 for the haters.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wouldnt [CENSORED] if he weren't hitting in the second spot...which personally I have no big problem with since there isn't anyone better to put their anyway...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poopdoop wrote:
They wouldnt [CENSORED] if he weren't hitting in the second spot...which personally I have no big problem with since there isn't anyone better to put their anyway...



According to juavlera.... "Castro is better offensively than LoDuca".

LOL... i'll never forget that statement. Post of the year awards right there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yah that's kind of dumb

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poopdoop wrote:
Yah that's kind of dumb



I mean I know this is the internet and all... but I don't know how anyone could type a comment that dumb with a straight face.


Oh and speaking of batting in the #2 spot... LoDuca is slowly moving up the ranks in that category as well.


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He is currently fourth in the NL in batting from the #2 spot.

He LEADS the NL with 20 doubles from the #2 spot. (tied for second in the MLB)

He LEADS the NL with fewest Ks from the #2 spot (16). (leads MLB as well)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh stop being logical.

OUR NUMBER 2 HITTER IS HOLDING US BACK.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's have Jose Lima bat 2nd. Anything, as long as he doesn't pitch.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A high batting average is nice, but it doesn't really mean much when you don't have much power and refuse to draw walks.

I know, I know, "LoDuca has to take pitches for Reyes!!" Should we discount some of Jose's numbers then since he's hurting poor Paulie so much?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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He does other things well for a 2-spot hitter, but a number 2 hitter's foremost responsibility is to get on base, and he's not good at that.

But honestly, right now, there really isn't a better #2 hitter than him because the other options aren't going to out on-base him, let alone do the other things.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A high batting average is nice, but it doesn't really mean much when you don't have much power and refuse to draw walks.

I know, I know, "LoDuca has to take pitches for Reyes!!" Should we discount some of Jose's numbers then since he's hurting poor Paulie so much?


taking pitches for reyes is the worst excuse for batting loduca second

Reyes can steal bases regardless of who is batting second

Cairo batted second most of last year and reyes stole 60 bases.......

loduca is a horrible 2 hitter

no ifs ands or buts about it

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's LoDuca's OBP? Does he have any power? Can he steal bases? He is a flawed # 2 hitter, but he gets by. Can we stop annointing him Jesus Christ?

Fucking milky lickers...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Willie was gonna start in the #2 spot!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna hold off on my asessment of Lo Duca until september. If he puts up the 2nd half numbers that he's put up in his whole career, we're gonna be fucked! Some of those numbers are just flat out SCARY! Right now he's pretty good, although the D could definitely use some work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like LoDuca most for his attitude on the field. I think he is a light hitter at this point in his career, but he does enough not to really hurt the Mets.

I just think it's silly how people throw batting average in everyone's face as justification for why LoDuca belongs hitting 2nd.

It's like the argument that Beltran should be a # 3 hitter because he has 24 home runs. Yeah, you would think it makes more sense to put him there, but with his tools, he's probably better suited to hit # 2 in the lineup and he'll still probably drive in close to 100 runs. Beltran is fine where he is for now I suppose, but if LoDuca starts to fade in the 2nd half, changes are going to have to be made. Hopefully, he won't fade and it won't need to be discussed any further.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StAiNdRuLeZ wrote:
HireDePodesta wrote:
A high batting average is nice, but it doesn't really mean much when you don't have much power and refuse to draw walks.

I know, I know, "LoDuca has to take pitches for Reyes!!" Should we discount some of Jose's numbers then since he's hurting poor Paulie so much?


taking pitches for reyes is the worst excuse for batting loduca second

Reyes can steal bases regardless of who is batting second

Cairo batted second most of last year and reyes stole 60 bases.......

loduca is a horrible 2 hitter

no ifs ands or buts about it


He isnt great, but he isnt horrible. The excuse i'm making though is that we don't have a better #2 hitter on the team right now, until we do it's gotta be pauly.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Red you're never going to make me believe a guy who hits 40 plus homers should be batting second...If they can find a second baseman who can get on base all the time than I'd move LoDuca out of the 2 hole...until than leave him there...they've done ok with him in that spot

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StAiNdRuLeZ wrote:
taking pitches for reyes is the worst excuse for batting loduca second

Reyes can steal bases regardless of who is batting second


Also, Reyes is only on base 36 percent of the time, but that includes 8 HR and 11 3B so he can't steal 67 percent of the time.

So 2/3 of the time, that argument is worthless anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

batting .300 makes you a solid ballplayer, no matter what. not every guy on this team is a stud, and paulie is taking one for the team because there is no other viable number 2. we have a lot of things to improve, and our number 2 hitter is not one of them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The job of the #2 hitter is to make contact and put the ball in play. Its not necessarially an OBP position.

This is why Cameron was a flawed #2 hitter. While his OBP was better than LoDuca's... he K'ed way too much for the #2 spot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the past few years... our biggest problem was the amount of K's we were taking in the #2 hole. Look at our prior #2 batters (Cameron, Matsui).

We finally have a guy batting second that puts the ball in play... and people are wondering how Reyes is set to break the record for runs scored.

Coincidence?
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