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FONZIE993 · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject:

Excuse me?

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IceySpoons · Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 5922 Location: Los Angeles, CA

to be fair, the play he made on opening day his first season in the bigs, where he made that throw home from his knees was one of the best i've ever seen in person.

also, let's not kid ourselves...despite some truly memorable years, it's not like we're talking about a long and storied franchise here. i probably can't come up with 50 players more deserving of "all time greatest mets" status.

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vtmet · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 341

I don't even know if he's in the top 5 for shortstops overall...let alone top 50 overall players...he's probably in the top 50 over rated MLB players of all time, however...

untitledproject · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject:

"I don't want to play here no more. The fans here are too stupid. You have to play perfect every game. You can't make an error. You can't go 0-for-4. Are we like (bleeping) machines?"

Yes.

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m2c2c2 · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject:

If you didn't see Rey play, you wouldn't see how huge he was to that team with the D.

Rey won three gold Gloves. Other than Hernandez, the Mets haven't had a player earn more than one in 44 years.

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ugottaBelieve · Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3527 Location: Mohave desert

I'd rate him 32d in Mets shortstops

1. Harrelson
2. Reyes
3. Ordonez

But I don't think that puts him in my top 50 (next post; will take some thought)

joeidaho · Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 1881

ugottaBelieve wrote:

I'd rate him 32d in Mets shortstops

1. Harrelson
2. Reyes
3. Ordonez

But I don't think that puts him in my top 50 (next post; will take some thought)

I'd have to say in just a few years, Reyes has already surpassed Harrelson.

charlie_obrien_fan · Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 4379 Location: RFK

Great defense, but putrid offense. Mets have had some pretty good players over the years (even if they found even greater success on another team). Not sure I would put Rey Rey in the top 50. I assume players who have only been with the Mets for one year or less (ie. Delgado, LoDuca) would not be eligible.

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.
Agbayani
Agee
Alfonzo
Backman
Beltran, C
Bonilla
Burnitz
Cameron
Carter, G
Cone
Darling
Dykstra
Fernandez, S
Floyd
Foster
Franco, Jo
Glavine
Gooden
Harrelson
Heilman
Henderson, R
Henderson, S
Hernandez, K
Hundley
Hunt
Jefferies
Johnson, H
Johnson, L
Jones, B
Jones, Cl
Kent
Kingman
Knight
Koosman
Kranepool
Leiter
Magadan
Martinez, P
Matlack
Mazzilli
McDowell
McGraw
McReynolds
Milan
Milner
Murray
Myers
Ojeda
Olerud
Orosco
Piazza
Reed
Reyes
Ryan
Saberhagen
Seaver
Staub
Stearns
Strawberry
Swoboda
Teufel
Trachsel
Ventura
Viola
Wendell
Wilson, M
Wright
Zeile

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untitledproject · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject:

Remember the commercial... Rey Ordonez Human Highlight Reel or film? I think ESPN made it. Ive been searching for it to no avail.

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ugottaBelieve · Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3527 Location: Mohave desert

These are not in any particular order...

C) Piazza, Carter, Grote, Stearns, Hundley
1B) Hernandez, Olerud, Milner, Magadan, Kranepool
2B) Backman, Millan, Hunt, Alfonzo, Kent
SS) Harrelson, Reyes
3B) Wright, Hojo, Ventura
OF) Jones, McReynolds, Floyd, Foster, S.Henderson, Agee, Wilson, Dykstra, Strawberry. Staub, Swoboda, Bonilla
SP) Seaver, Gooden, Koosman, Cone, Darling, Fernandez, Leiter, Matlack
RP) McGraw, Orosco, Lockwood, Myers. Benitez, McDowell

That's 46. Okay I'll add Kingman, Bobby Jones, and Turk Wendell.

Anyone I can think of for #50 isn't a slam-dunk better than Rey=O. Whaddayaknow.

Of course, Beltran, Delgado, and Wagner will be upgrading the list soon. Not enough tenure as Mets yet.

quick trivia: which pitcher and position player have the longest current tenure as Mets?

Glavine & Jose

ugottaBelieve · Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3527 Location: Mohave desert

Charlie, I'll grant Cameron, Franco, Reed, and Zeile to my list. Some of the others were one-season wonders even if they played more than one.

charlie_obrien_fan · Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 4379 Location: RFK

ugottaBelieve wrote:

Charlie, I'll grant Cameron, Franco, Reed, and Zeile to my list. Some of the others were one-season wonders even if they played more than one.

No Saberhagen or Ojeda?

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untitledproject · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject:

Anthony Young.

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IceySpoons · Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 5922 Location: Los Angeles, CA

UNTITLEDPROJECT wrote:

Anthony Young.

get out.

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ugottaBelieve · Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3527 Location: Mohave desert

No Saberhagen. I saw his Mets career. Nothing special except a good ERA.

Ojeda... great in 86, then hurt a lot.

Tax Kuntz · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 38

I'd take Tim Bogar over Ordonez.

ugottaBelieve · Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3527 Location: Mohave desert

well whover fills out our lists, we've got more than 50 without Rey-O, which was the point.

untitledproject · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject:

After review, the call on the field stands.

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charlie_obrien_fan · Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 4379 Location: RFK

ugottaBelieve wrote:

No Saberhagen. I saw his Mets career. Nothing special except a good ERA.

Ojeda... great in 86, then hurt a lot.

Saberhagen's peripherals were great throughout his tenure, especially 1994: 143K, 13BB (incredible)

I think in addition to 1986, 1988 cements Ojeda over Ordonez.

And Glavine's last three years should as well.

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